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syncope ([personal profile] syncope) wrote2009-11-19 09:47 pm

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Well I'm a bit of an emotional wreck. Let me just say I never cared for Jo and I was always mostly indifferent on Ellen.

So in the entire scene from where Jo was all about sacrificing herself and Ellen didn't just put her foot down I was like NO! No, no fucking WAY would that woman do that.

Which just made her sacrificing herself too so much worse. She knew from the moment Jo was clearly dying that she was just going to go ahead and die, too.

Idk, man, I have never cried over this show before--and I have some serious effing investment in it as anyone who's reading this should know--but I've had to turn the episode off for now and just cry for a while. I'll finish watching in a little while, I guess.

When Ellen said "My good girl" I turned it off, because tmi that's what my mom always says when you're sick or hurt.

Anyway I am a bit fucked up here.

I really thought the surgery scene from Changing Channels was going to come into play and Sam would save Jo. Oh well.

eta: ok watched the rest. Samael shoutie. Ok, I won't even bitch about the cop out on that.

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[identity profile] bethac.livejournal.com 2009-11-20 02:52 am (UTC)(link)
I also never cared one way or the other for them, but I had to wipe my eyes on my shoulder where my sister couldn't see, that scene hurt so much.

[identity profile] aggybird.livejournal.com 2009-11-20 03:00 am (UTC)(link)
God, ditto. I was like, oh well, she'll die by hellhound, shrug, and then she gave that speech and just. WOW. Good job writers, GREAT job actors. Those bitches were fierce.

(January 21, Kassie. JANU-FUCKING-ARY 21. GOOD GODDAMN. I am going to go crazy until everyone starts posting challenge fic.)

[identity profile] weesta.livejournal.com 2009-11-20 03:02 am (UTC)(link)
I always liked Ellen, and Jo really grew on me. GODDAMMIT KRIPKE!

[identity profile] ignited.livejournal.com 2009-11-20 03:47 am (UTC)(link)
I just broke down sobbing at what Ellen said at the very end. Just... a great, really great heroes exit. Man. I also wondered at how Ellen was acting at first but it made sense by the end, that she'd go too. Still heartbreaking. That will definitely be a hard scene to rewatch. Fantastic acting from all of them.

[identity profile] loveflyfree.livejournal.com 2009-11-20 04:12 am (UTC)(link)
I am wrecked. I've always loved both of those characters and that was just. Jo is a HERO. they both are. and I'm totally only going to click the cut tags of people who I know are going to agree with me. ugh the writing and acting was so good there and just. *sigh* I've cried myself into a headache.

(although january 21st? do not approve! although am very excited about upcoming VD marathon. \o/)

[identity profile] queeniegalore.livejournal.com 2009-11-20 10:01 am (UTC)(link)
Not gonna lie, I always loved Jo and had this whole huge epic in my head about her and Sarah from season 1 teaming up to hunt demons, and probably falling in love along the way or something, and now I wish I'd gone ahead and written it (I think I actually started it at some point, must investigate) because now I've been totally goddamn Kripked.

I bawled like a little girl. I completely lost my cool. Supernatural has never made me do that before,as far as I can recall. UGH.

[identity profile] missyjack.livejournal.com 2009-11-20 01:10 pm (UTC)(link)
i may have teared up too but if you tell anyone i'll kill you

[identity profile] elzed.livejournal.com 2009-11-20 01:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh man, like you, I never invested much in Jo (but oh, Ellen - I've always loved Ellen), yet that death scene absolutely floored me. I was crying (not just the odd tear, either, I actually cried, dammit). Actually I know I identified strongly with Ellen (because, d'oh, mother), and I was also thinking "no way will she let that happen". Until it became clear she was staying, because she knew she couldn't save her daughter, so it wasn't worth going on. Which, hey, I can relate to, entirely.

Anyhow, what bothered me more than "they killed the women" is "they killed those women"! I loved Ellen, always thought of her as the great survivor, and the ranks of the hunters are getting pretty thin.

BTW - are you guys saying there isn't a new SPN until mid-January?

Eeek

[identity profile] tenaciousmetoo.livejournal.com 2009-11-21 01:04 am (UTC)(link)
What you said. Up there. (http://ethrosdemon.livejournal.com/543512.html?thread=14229528#t14229528)

That was my reaction exactly. I was so pleased that they made Jo & Ellen heroes. Female characters, and supporting cast, and *they* got to save the day instead of being rescued. I thought it was an honorable thing to do, and went along with Kripke's tendency to fingerpoint at what's right and wrong with the typical trends in the genre.

Supporting cast members die; we know this. Doesn't matter what shape or form they come in, they die. But, if they had to, I thought this was a great way to do it.

[identity profile] gypsy-atavari.livejournal.com 2009-11-21 05:02 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah - I am with you 100%.

That ep ripped me apart and I never saw the tears coming.

Glad that i haven't read any reactions yet that show is mean to women and this illustrates exactly how. Because I actually thought that it was a pretty strong show of courage, self-sacrifice and heroism.