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posted by [identity profile] cobweb-diamond.livejournal.com at 05:06pm on 03/08/2010
I think he came across as MAYBE gay but definitely a 1930s English luvvie trying to be as upper-class as humanly possible. No one talks like that, darling. Lending credence to the "these characters are ridiculous because they exist only in Cobb's head" theory.

Eames has certainly banged a dude before, though.
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posted by [identity profile] ethrosdemon.livejournal.com at 05:11pm on 03/08/2010
You're first point is one I was trying to make without saying "is this a all Englishmen seem fey to Americans?" issue. I think there's some element of that happening, probably to. I don't mean that as an insult to anyone reading this, just an observation of inculcated stereotyping.
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posted by [identity profile] cobweb-diamond.livejournal.com at 05:14pm on 03/08/2010
I found him quite amusing because he seemed exactly like a mid-20th century english stage actor. i mean, he could seriously have been alec guinness or noel coward or something. as opposed to, you know, the coded-gay posh english sneer-voice used for every disney villain ever.
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posted by [identity profile] deepsix.livejournal.com at 05:19pm on 03/08/2010
Yes, this.
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posted by [identity profile] ethrosdemon.livejournal.com at 05:26pm on 03/08/2010
This is an interesting perspective. I like it especially since I am fond of the movie as an allegory for movies interpretation and this fits into that in a way to make everything even more beautiful.

Ah, ok, then that also makes him switching gender in line with old fashioned thespianism where the men played the women's roles.
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posted by [identity profile] tevere.livejournal.com at 01:27am on 04/08/2010
The Alec Guinness thing is interesting. Because, hmm. We first see Eames in Mombasa-- but it's not a real Mombasa, it's a kind of self-conscious hearkback-to-colonial-times envisaging thereof, right? (I do think the depiction is self-conscious and deliberate-- I guess people's mileage may vary, but I don't think it's just the Hollywood machine producing a problematically Exotic Location for the sake of exoticness. Which doesn't make the depiction not problematic in and of itself, but-- anyway, I'm digressing.) Which made me think of TE Lawrence (hence the Alec Guinness connection) and Wilfred Thesiger and all those Oxbridge types in North Africa and the Middle East in the early and mid-20th century...

...who weren't actually just stiff-upper-lip British with all the accompanying mannerisms thereof, but also queer. (Well, Lawrence and Thesiger, anyway. And Gertrude Bell was kind of gender-queer if not actually a lesbian, I think...?)

Which, ha. I don't know if it means Eames is gay or not -- I can see arguments for and against -- but my mind certainly went in that direction.
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