posted by [identity profile] rivers-bend.livejournal.com at 05:02pm on 03/08/2010
You kind of lost me on the Tom Hardy stuff, because I haven't seen Rock'n'Rolla, but I'm pretty sure I did read Eames as gay. I need to see the movie again (for many reasons) and I had planned to look out for this already, because out of all the fanfic in all the fandoms, even Sherlock Holmes, Eames seems the most natural fit into slash of any character ever (bearing in mind I've never read QaF fic). I definitely read Arthur as canonically queer, though not necessarily gay, and not necessarily having done anything about his boy-lustings. I didn't think as much about Eames at the time, but having thought about him since, yes. I am pretty sure I read him as gay. hmmm. Or probably more homo-leaning bi, because I'm not sure he a) could be doing with labels, or b) could be doing with limiting himself arbitrarily when it came to good times.

interestingly, I have no idea if I'm agreeing or disagreeing with you right now. Not that that matters to my opinion ;)
 
posted by [identity profile] ethrosdemon.livejournal.com at 05:14pm on 03/08/2010
Oh, let's just say that his character in RnR is just about the polar opposite of Eames.

Well there is no actual answer here, so there's no agreeing or disagreeing. I think that's true with opinions on media in general, but in particular with this film.

Interesting on Arthur. He didn't strike me that way at all. But his sexuality really never occurred to me one way or the other while watching the movie, though.
 
posted by [identity profile] rivers-bend.livejournal.com at 05:44pm on 03/08/2010
being honest, JGL's sexuality occurs to me in every movie I see him in, and I'm not even sure why. But I do always think about it. Possibly because I've seen him play both straight and gay but he often plays characters without love interests at all and so my interest is piqued? Whatever it is, that's my default for him. I read him canonically in love with Dom, the way I read Pilot as canonically in love with Jack in Highway. Though if the movie is read as entirely a dream from start to finish, so everyone in it is in Dom's head, that ads an interesting layer to it, in terms of Dom creating a character who he has a kind of codependant relationship with...
 
posted by [identity profile] ethrosdemon.livejournal.com at 05:53pm on 03/08/2010
Your last point has actually been a source of a lot of pondering on my part. For me, the big hitch to creating the meta text of the film is trying to figure out who each of the dream characters is to Dom. I'm pretty much now of the opinion that Mal and the kids are completely symbolic and never existed in the real world. Mal is something his subconscious knows he has to put behind him/get over and the kids are his reward for doing so/something he aspires to but can't achieve with Mal lingering around.

Who the other characters are is more difficult. I think Ariadne might be himself--him talking to himself and ultimately solving his problem. The other characters I'm more unsure about. Maybe Arthur actually is his partner, what that means I'm unsure. But he does trust him implicitly and believes that he can do the impossible (the hallway scene, the whole movie really).
 
posted by [identity profile] reasdream.livejournal.com at 03:44am on 04/08/2010
I perceived Arthur not as in love with Dom romantically, but someone who loves him in a filial or platonic manner. Mostly because their interactions reminded me of me and my sister, and also me and a man who I love (I'm a mostly straight female), and who I would go to the ends of the earth for, but for whom I have no romantic feelings. I was the Best (wo)Man at his wedding.

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