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posted by [personal profile] syncope at 07:31pm on 14/09/2012
I just wrote this comment fic in someone else's journal. We were talking about the lack of dark fic in TW fandom. I think one of the reasons I fell so hard into SPN fandom, lo these many years ago, is that it afforded the opportunity to be dark as hell. I missed that from Buffy.

I'd really like to see some dark themed fic in TW. I mean, the Argents--what the hell else is out there? Derek's family-related pain is off the table for me since I've become a Derek-feel maniac and just want him to be happy. Yeah, shut up.

I already have a fic going. Do you know how long it's been since I ended up working on more than one fic at a time? I think it was probably Angel fandom. Do you see a theme?

Gifs, links, recs, fics you want written?
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posted by [identity profile] bunnymcfoo.livejournal.com at 12:11am on 15/09/2012
I want something dark around Stiles, because I'm a terrible person. Like, I think people think he's a giant comedic noise machine and well, yeah, but he's also got it in him to be ruthless as fuck and I want moar fic exploring that.

There's also the thing that I see sometimes with Stiles-As-A-Demon and I fucking LOVE that idea. LOVE IT. Hearts in my fucking eyes. Like, Stiles-As-Meg. I eat that like up like PIE, you have no idea.

So yeah. You should write me Stiles-As-Meg fic and that would be awesome.
 
posted by [identity profile] ethrosdemon.livejournal.com at 12:22am on 15/09/2012
I agree that he has that ruthless streak in him. I think driving your car through a wall kind of indicates you're will to Go There. He also has no time for people fucking with anyone he cares about. This is him at 16. Who is he at 25? Who is he at 30? Who is he when someone kidnaps Scott and tortures him? Who is he when his dad's life is in peril? This is not a pretty picture of someone who calls 911 and waits.

haahha I've seen two fics like that? Are there more? Is there meta? I'm interested. (My current fic is Stiles getting bitten. He's not Scott or Isaac.)
 
posted by [identity profile] ivy03.livejournal.com at 01:06am on 15/09/2012
See, I still read TW and think Torchwood, so I was reading this post like, bwuh? There's tons of dark Torchwood fic!
 
posted by [identity profile] amberlynne.livejournal.com at 01:22am on 15/09/2012
Derek's family-related pain is off the table for me since I've become a Derek-feel maniac and just want him to be happy

I love you.

And I've bookmarked a few dark ones? But so sad!! Have you read that stupid one where Stiles gets CANCER and fucking DIES?
 
posted by [identity profile] ethrosdemon.livejournal.com at 01:26am on 15/09/2012
That is NOT what I mean by dark! Stiles does not DIE! WTF???????????? I mean violence and Stiles being ruthless not him dying. Who wrote that? That's wrong.

*I die*
 
posted by [identity profile] elizardbits.livejournal.com at 02:11am on 15/09/2012
blah blah sterek yes i love them forever BUT ANYWAY HERE IS A DELIGHTFUL TEMERAIRE FIC (http://archiveofourown.org/works/359680?view_full_work=true)
 
posted by [identity profile] lezzerlee.livejournal.com at 02:31am on 15/09/2012
I really love dark fic and I hope more is written in TW. I really liked your comment fic so far!
 
posted by [identity profile] ethrosdemon.livejournal.com at 10:02pm on 15/09/2012
Thank you and thank you.

I think there will be more. I can see it in the crystal ball that is my flist.
 
posted by [identity profile] just-for-kicks.livejournal.com at 03:45am on 15/09/2012
Stiles strikes me as someone who will fuck your shit up if he thinks its necessary. I would love to see so much more of his ability to be totally ruthless in fic.
 
posted by [identity profile] ethrosdemon.livejournal.com at 10:04pm on 15/09/2012
I agree with you. I think he already TRIES to kick asses but he's not practiced at that enough yet. With practice, watch out.
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posted by [personal profile] velithya at 04:12am on 15/09/2012
I READ YOUR COMMENT FIC AND I REALLY REALLY HOPE YOU ARE WRITING MORE OF THAT

because Stiles, yesss. Stiles can and will fuck your shit up.
 
posted by [identity profile] ethrosdemon.livejournal.com at 10:04pm on 15/09/2012
I plan to tomorrow. The issue is that the "plot" is them defeating the Alpha Pack, and...that's the whole of S3. Must be condensed.
 
posted by [identity profile] magdalyna.livejournal.com at 11:35am on 15/09/2012
Would Peter fic suit you? Because that's what I've been doing.
 
posted by [identity profile] ethrosdemon.livejournal.com at 10:05pm on 15/09/2012
I'm in the Peter Is Too Evil To Live camp. I just can't get passed the Laura thing (even if Derek apparently can?). Is he killing people?
 
posted by [identity profile] sapporonoodles.livejournal.com at 08:07pm on 15/09/2012
oh my god, i am stupid excited to find out that you are writing TW fic. years and years ago in my rocky teenage years i read color of wheat and that just changed the landscape of fic for me, and made me want to write the way you (and zahra?) wrote that. so uh, peeing my pants and going to go read and drown in your danny fic.
 
posted by [identity profile] ethrosdemon.livejournal.com at 10:09pm on 15/09/2012
Yes, with Zahra.

This is such a lovely comment on so many levels. For one, I really enjoyed writing that story, so you mentioning it makes me smile. For another it's very flattering for you to say I influenced what you wanted to be your writing style. What do I say to that? I'm embarrassed a little, but in a good way. But mostly I hope reading my writing helped you if you were in a rough place. That's a big part of fandom that matters to me--how supportive and loving so many people in it are.

I hope to see you around again.
 
posted by [identity profile] desfinado.livejournal.com at 12:23am on 16/09/2012
Oh my god this sounds like it would be AMAZING. YESSS. Also:

I feel like this would also very much be a Stiles dominating Derek story, so embracing this post all the way around.

*_______________________* UM. YES.

I would like to know more about the kid who, on one of the darkest days he's ever had, jerked off twice. I want to know what HIS relationship with getting himself off must be, then, when he feels hopeless and powerless and anxious. Unhappy orgasms, mmmmmmm.

Haven't encountered much darkfic in this fandom yet to rec, sadly, aside from this (http://archiveofourown.org/works/476673) (HNNNNNNRRRGGHH) and the lovely sad sort of feeling this fic (http://archiveofourown.org/works/481712) left me with.
 
posted by [identity profile] ethrosdemon.livejournal.com at 11:20pm on 17/09/2012
Thank you for the links!

Well, I hope you like the story when it's done. It's gonna be another longass ramble!

Oh, in my worldview Derek really misses being a beta when things were simpler and someone would hold him down and fuck him into the ground so he wouldn't have to take responsibility for anything. That's why he's not fucking his betas. I think Erica would give him a run for his money, but she would also not respect him in the morning.
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posted by [personal profile] soul_cake_duck at 04:15pm on 16/09/2012
So, late comment is late, but I too would really like some dark!Stiles. During S2 I was...very intruiged by how Stiles seemed so willing to kill Jackson. Its frustrating because fandom-Stiles as a character is already so well established that people seem to ignore when canon does things like that. But yeah, if he was perfectly willing to kill Jackson at that point, he could very easily go down the 'kill everything!' path if someone he actually cares about was at risk.

Also, excellent comment fic. I'm excited to hear there may be more on the way!

But anyway, 2 recs for your time: always a demon Stiles.

TW/Suits crossover with a different type of Stiles
soul_cake_duck: (happy - bea_lost)
posted by [personal profile] soul_cake_duck at 04:16pm on 16/09/2012
And LJ marked my previous comment as spam. The links are to AO3. I dont know why LJ hates me.
 
posted by [identity profile] ethrosdemon.livejournal.com at 11:17pm on 17/09/2012
I got it in my inbox, no worries. Who knows why LJ does anything.

YAY for the links.

Also, I agree with you 100% about Stiles wanting to just kill Jackson. I mean, the fuck? This is very early in his career as a supernatural adjacent person and he's already all "whelp, guess there's nothing we can do now but get on with the killing!" and it's someone he's presumably known all his life? I pity anyone who fucks Scott up in the future.

Thank you about the fic, and there's already a whole helluva lot more.
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posted by [identity profile] anatsuno.livejournal.com at 03:01pm on 17/09/2012
you just reminded me that dark and angst are two different things. I am not interested in angst but I LOVE dark. dark Stiles fic would be awesome *opens your comment fic in a tab to read*. Dark fic has more potential for all the fucked up sex I love, too, omnomnom.

Also incidentally I decided to start / crowd source / maintain a bottom!Derek fanworks masterlist (http://anatsuno.dreamwidth.org/1047214.html), and, because it's a different thing, I might start a top!Stiles one too. Because unf.
 
posted by [identity profile] ethrosdemon.livejournal.com at 11:06pm on 17/09/2012
Yes, please with top!Stiles!!!

I'm going to link to your list here in a second.

Sometimes angst is ok, but mostly when I say dark, yeah, I mean someone with some mental health issues/demons (literal and figurative)/vampires that kind of thing.

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